Thoughtful in Selah
Saturday, March 22, 2008
To Ranting Heathen
I was going to post another comment after your comments but I thought another post would be better because I want to say a lot of stuff. I don't want to really change the subject becuase we are actually seeing eye-to-eye.
To Ranting Heathen -
I think you may be starting to get some of the point. This is just one of those things that doesn't "fit in the box". There is only one intent of life and that is that we are created to worship God.
Now I've felt this way for a very long time and there's sometimes I still don't get it:
It seems like God is almost greedy. He wants all the worship and he created us to praise Him. Now c'mon - if you just think about that it does sound a bit selfish. Any Joe Shmo could tell you that. And I can honestly see why it turns you (collectively, people who disagree with certain Christian views) off.
The reason why it doesn't turn me off and I still love God and still worship Him is because he loves me so much more. He provides and cares for me. And the blessings that he has in store for everyone is so great you cannot even imagine. I have personally been infilled with the Holy Spirit on multiple occasions and the feeling is phenomenal. There's just no words to describe the greatness.
Here's an analogy that might be able to help. If I just randomly gave you $10,000 do you think that you and I would become really good friends if you knew that I was going to keep giving you money? I'm just making sure your seeing my point here. If someone is blessing you with such great things - including life and eternal life - isn't the least you could do is thank that person?
I realize that this might be difficult to understand considering you don't believe God exists - or do you? (I'm not certain of all your views) There is one thing of which I am certain though. In order to experience something great, you must take the first leap - either fearlessly to try something new or out of faith as you are scared to death. It all starts with being open to a new mindset.
I'm not asking you to change or anything and I'm not convicting - I'm just asking you to think about "Life". What purpose are we serving if we are just living and dying? If there is nothing out there to hope for than what good is caring? Why should I be a moral person if there's no consequences against it?
I must admit that this is quite an interesting conversation...
To Ranting Heathen -
I think you may be starting to get some of the point. This is just one of those things that doesn't "fit in the box". There is only one intent of life and that is that we are created to worship God.
Now I've felt this way for a very long time and there's sometimes I still don't get it:
It seems like God is almost greedy. He wants all the worship and he created us to praise Him. Now c'mon - if you just think about that it does sound a bit selfish. Any Joe Shmo could tell you that. And I can honestly see why it turns you (collectively, people who disagree with certain Christian views) off.
The reason why it doesn't turn me off and I still love God and still worship Him is because he loves me so much more. He provides and cares for me. And the blessings that he has in store for everyone is so great you cannot even imagine. I have personally been infilled with the Holy Spirit on multiple occasions and the feeling is phenomenal. There's just no words to describe the greatness.
Here's an analogy that might be able to help. If I just randomly gave you $10,000 do you think that you and I would become really good friends if you knew that I was going to keep giving you money? I'm just making sure your seeing my point here. If someone is blessing you with such great things - including life and eternal life - isn't the least you could do is thank that person?
I realize that this might be difficult to understand considering you don't believe God exists - or do you? (I'm not certain of all your views) There is one thing of which I am certain though. In order to experience something great, you must take the first leap - either fearlessly to try something new or out of faith as you are scared to death. It all starts with being open to a new mindset.
I'm not asking you to change or anything and I'm not convicting - I'm just asking you to think about "Life". What purpose are we serving if we are just living and dying? If there is nothing out there to hope for than what good is caring? Why should I be a moral person if there's no consequences against it?
I must admit that this is quite an interesting conversation...
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1 Comments:
Agh. I apologize for the late reply, I never got around to it.
There are certain values on Morality which are often promoted, from several points of view. Nonviolence and kindness are promoted mainly out of self-interest. You could go around killing everyone, but then they are more likely to kill you. Self-preservation usually prevents you from taking actions that will get you killed.
Kindness isn’t needed to survive, but still helps. People are more likely to reciprocate kindness to those who show it to them, rather than someone who is cruel. Other, more trivial values of right-and-wrong are debated to help determine them, using the standards society has set. For example, slavery used to be generally acceptable among society, but in today’s world, slavery is an evil thing, and is not allowed. No matter what, what is right in the eyes of some will never be right in the eyes of others. This will never change with any religion. The only difference would be what is in the holy texts, and how they are interpreted.
The actual “meaning of life” can be debated, but I don’t see any difference in a religious life, or a non-religious life. Having life after death gives no more meaning to the material world than not having a life after death. For example, if all events in the world lead up to the same thing, being with God, than it does not matter what you do, things will turn out the same. What you do on earth will only affect those after you, and aside from judgment, it will not effect your afterlife at all. The same could be said about not having life after death. What you do on earth will only affect those who come after you, and will not have an effect on you after death. So the only thing you could strive to do in life, is complete yourself as a human being, and help those who will come after you by trying to create a better world.
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